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LABOUR PORTFOLIO COMMITTEE
16 November 1999
MINISTERIAL DETERMINATION FOR SMALL BUSINESSES UNDER BASIC CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT ACT
(BCEA): PRESENTATION
Documents handed out:
Presentation by Labour Department on Labour Law and Small Business (see Appendix 1 -
attached to end of minutes)
COSATU Submission on the Ministerial Determination on Small Business (see Appendix 2 -
attached to end of minutes)
Press Statement by Minister of Labour on the Ministerial Determination
Text of Ministerial Determination No. 1: Small Business Sector Ministerial
Determination- Small Business (BCEA)
Ministerial Determination Explanatory Material
COSATU General Submissions to the Minister of Labour
SUMMARY
Presentations were made by Les Kettledas, Deputy Director General of the Department of
Labour, and Neil Coleman, representing COSATU, on the Ministerial Determination on Small
Business.
MINUTES
After being welcomed by the committee chairman, who noted that the interests of labour
and small business are equally important and must be balanced, presentations were made by
Les Kettledas, Deputy Director General of the Department of Labour, and Neil Coleman,
representing COSATU (see documents appended for full comments).
Mr L Kettledas stated that the Ministerial Determination on Small Business had taken
effect on 15 November 1999, and noted in summary that it:
- affects small businesses employing less than 10 employees (subject to certain
exceptions)
- varies the BCEA conditions of employment provisions as to maximum hours of overtime that
can be worked, the overtime rate, averaging hours of work, and family responsibility
leave.
He also touched on the procedures for formulating and implementing this Ministerial
Decision, noting the role of the Ministerial Task Team and the Employment Conditions
Commission (ECC) in the process.
Mr N Coleman replied that COSATU was opposed to the Ministerial Determination because:
- In principle it is a dangerous precedent to vary the BCEA and undermines the general
legislative scheme protecting workers.
- The Ministerial Determination addresses micro-businesses rather than
small businesses, and in such application is inconsistent with other labour
legislation and may even be unconstitutional.
- The Ministerial Determination does not protect the most vulnerable workers, that is,
those who are not protected by collective bargaining agreements, and thus perpetuates
duality in the labour market.
Once the presentations were concluded various questions from the floor were submitted,
among them:
1. Mr D Bakker (NNP) noted that the session was scheduled as a briefing by the Department,
and that COSATUs participation had not been previously noted, and queried why no
opportunity had been provided for business interests to present their position. The
chairman noted that committee members have the right to invite other stakeholders
input, but that the issue was in the public domain, and in the public interest COSATU was
given the opportunity to participate at this juncture.
2. A DP member welcomed the Determination, stating that it was helpful to the perception
of overseas investors as to the SA business climate, and noted that the DP will ask in
future for more ministerial determinations in order to facilitate relaxation of certain
labour law provisions.
3. A member applauded the foresight of President Mbeki and former Minister Mboweni in
encouraging the formulation of this Ministerial Determination, and wondered as to the
effect of a constitutional challenge by COSATU on overseas investor perceptions. In
response, Coleman noted that COSATU regrets the premature implementation of the
Determination without full consideration of its concerns (notwithstanding its
participation in the Ministerial Task Team), and noted that business itself is the biggest
culprit in putting off overseas investors by its continued bemoaning of recent labour
laws.
4. Mr R Pillay (DP) queried the enforceability and monitoring of the Determination, and
Kettledas noted that such monitoring is an integral part of the function of the
Departments inspectorate, which is in the process of being revamped to enhance its
effectiveness. He also noted that further steps, as may be determined with the input of
COSATU, may be formulated to ensure compliance.
5. A member queried whether the ECC had rejected components of the Determination, and
wondered how it had been implemented if this was so, and also noted that overseas
investors were not concerned with businesses employing less than ten people.
6. Mr G Olifant (ANC) followed up by asking that the text of ECC and Ministerial Task Team
recommendations be provided for committee members review. He also noted his concern
about the potential for a legal structure providing for individual agreements between
employees and employers undermining the kind of workers rights which a collective
bargaining structure fosters, and noted that "weve now been warned of the DP
game of playing off unprotected workers interests against those of overseas
investors.'"
7. Another member noted that while the DP is happy with anything in businesss
interest, it consistently obstructs transformation, and another noted that government must
continue to be concerned with the quality of workers lives, particularly for those
who were previously disadvantaged.
Due to time constraints, the meeting was concluded. In conclusion, the chairperson stated
that he will undertake to have the Ministerial Task Team provide follow-up responses on
this subject in the new year.
Appendix 1:
Labour law and small business
Presentation to Parliament Portfolio Committee by the Department of Labour
November 1999
What this input will address
Approach
Empirical evidence
15 point programme of Minister
Legislative approach
Labour Relations Act
Basic Conditions of Employment Act
Employment Equity Act
Skills Development Act
Unemployment Insurance Act
Ministerial Determination for Small Business
Background
How the issue arose ..
Investigation
Terms of reference of Ministerial Task Team
Impact assessment
Ministerial task team: Approach
Ministerial task team: Recommendations
Ministerial task team: Ministerial Determination
Employment Conditions Commission
Approach of the Minister
Small Business Ministerial Determination
What is a Ministerial Determination
Who will be affected?
Why under 10?
What does it say
Overtime
Why overtime?
Averaging of hours
Why averaging of hours
Family responsibility leave
Why address issue of leave
Challenge to small businesses
Conclusion
Appendix 2:
COSATU
Ministerial Determination: Small Business
| No. of workers | Hours per week | Overtime hours | Total hours |
| 1-50 | 42.5 | 3.2 | 45.7 |
| 51-150 | 42.6 | 6.0 | 48.6 |
| 151-400 | 43.4 | 5.9 | 49.3 |
| 401+ | 44.3 | 5.3 | 49.6 |